"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?
Forbid it, Almighty God!
I know not what course others may take,
but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."

Patrick Henry, Patriot 1775

" Truth sits forsaken and grieves until her professed followers come home for a brief visit,
but she sees them depart again when the bills become due.
They protest great and undying love for her but they will not let their love cost them anything!


prohibiting Christianity interviewguests.com

"Yea, and all that will live Godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution" -- 2 Timothy 3:12
"Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer "-- Rev. 2: 10

Christian Love-Prayers
Christians shed abroad the love that God has put in our hearts for Him ( Romans 5:5 ) ,
the love for His word ( including commands ) and our love for others.
Genuine love is sharing with others the Good News that God forgives sin when we come to Him with broken hearts. ( Psalm 51:17 )
Christians do not commit so-called "hate " crimes. We commit "love prayers " for those in need.
We love the sinner -- through prayer -- and we hate the sin, through separation.

"I'd rather have the single approval of God, than the loudest applause of man".

Christians : "Marvel not if the world hates you" -- 1 John 3:13

News: Fair educational use :
"Amazing Grace" -- sung by DIVO at the Roman Coliseum (
symbol of persecution against Christians )

Senate passes "hate-crime" bill ; comes against christianity, Christians
muzzling freedom of speech
But Sen. Jim DeMint said that since opposition to homosexuality is "a biblical concept," the measure could "serve as a warning to people not to speak out too loudly about their religious views lest the federal law enforcement come knocking at their door." The South Carolina Republican asked, "Can priests, pastors, rabbis be sure that their preaching will not be prosecuted? (Click button to the left to view an 11-minute video of Sen. DeMint speaking against S. 909)

Harrassment of Home-Bible Studies; Overwhelming Zoning fees; "it will get ugly "
"According to a Washington Times report, Pastor David Jones and his wife were holding small Bible studies in their home in Bonita, California.  Only about 15 people attended these Bible studies and they were doing this for five years.  On Good Friday morning, a San Diego County Code Enforcement officer went to the Jones residence and began taking photographs. 
The officer rudely asked Mrs. Jones, "Did they sing at their meetings?  Did they say amen and "praise the Lord"?  When Mrs. Jones said, "Yes," the officer declared that these were illegal religious gatherings which must stop immediately! 
The Joneses received a citation warning them to "cease/stop religious assembly on parcel or obtain a major use permit."  Getting a permit could cost
tens of thousands of dollars, and failure to do so would result in fines starting at $100 and escalating to $1,000. Than the county official reportedly had warned, "it will get ugly."
"Due to the national outcry, the County of San Diego temporarily backed down.  But, for Christians in America there is much more to come.  Leaders in the Christian pro-family movement are warning about "Hate Crime Legislation" that has been called "The Pedophile Protection Act" which was passed by the House of Representatives and is waiting to be signed by President Obama.  The bill protects 547 different kinds of sexual orientations and criminalizes Christianity.  Europe and Canada have already passed similar legislation and it means that if pastors or Christians truly speak from the Bible they can be fined, arrested and imprisoned

EU's "Durban II " upholds gays; usurps religion

"According to well informed sources,  the EU proposed at Holland’s initiative an alternative final declaration that no longer gives religion precedence over the rights of the individual, condemns discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and does not permit the use of anti-Semitic or anti-Israel language.

Harassment of Christians in the workplace accelerates --Britain
"The findings suggest a growing hostility towards religion in this country (UK) , which has been highlighted by a series of clashes between churchgoers and their employers.

Persecution of Christians in the US workplace

San Diego, CAlif. trying to stop Home Bible Studies

GOD above politics; Discernment above naivete

We will preach the Gospel whether legal or not

Behold the days come, saith the LORD GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD." -------AMOS 8: 11
Nat'l Public Radio axes any religious programming

Muzzling Christian websites and liberty-loving websites (
began April 1, 2009 )
Government Cyber-squads to attack domestic "right wing extremists" websites---
May 2, 2009 ( non-state enemies )
Ed: Obviously this refers to Bible believers who are not politically correct
" The National Research Council operates as the working arm of the United States National Academy of Sciences (NAS) and the
United States National Academy of Engineering and is a corporation in the United States. In other words, the National Research Council report on “cyberwarfare” may be considered policy under formulation by the government
...the Senate gears up to pass a bill requiring the creation of cybersecurity czar. “The proposals, in Senate legislation that could be introduced as early as today, would broaden the focus of the government’s cybersecurity efforts to include not only military networks but also private systems,
[ Ed: make that "private citizens " ] ” the Washington Post reported on April 1[ 2009 ] . The bills, 773 and 778, introduced by Sen. Jay Rockefeller, would give Obama unlimited power of control over the Internet, including the power to shut it down.
The NRC report is a continuation of the Pentagon’s Information Operation Roadmap, signed by then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.
[ Ed: the aspartame guy ... as in cause of cancer in US ]

The document calls for “rapid improvement of CNA [Computer Network Attack] capability” and a “robust offensive suite of capabilities to include full-range electronic and computer network attack. According to the Pentagon, the internet is an enemy “weapons system.” (Read the Operation Roadmap)
Last month Infowars and other alternative news websites revealed that the Department of Homeland Security has designated “rightwing extremists” as a threat to the nation. The DHS report, produced by the DHS’ Office of Intelligence and Analysis, characterizes supporters of the Second Amendment and opponents of abortion as extremists capable of violence [ Ed: Does that include anyone who has a baby ???]

"Government subversion of domestic political opposition is not new. In the 1960s and early 1970s, the FBI and local law enforcement threatened, instigated and conducted break-ins, vandalism, assaults, beatings, and even murder under COINTELPRO. “They planted false media stories and published bogus leaflets and other publications in the name of targeted groups. They forged correspondence, sent anonymous letters, and made anonymous telephone calls. They spread misinformation about meetings and events, set up pseudo movement groups run by agents, and manipulated or strong-armed parents, employers, landlords, school officials and others to cause trouble for activists,” write Mike Cassidy and Will Miller.

More recently, the FBI and military intelligence have spied on and instructed local law enforcement to form “counter-terrorism squads” in response to the antiwar and patriot movements. As documented by Infowars, Prison Planet, and others, the government has used agents provocateurs to “disrupt, misdirect, discredit and otherwise neutralize” legitimate protest on numerous occasions. [ Ed Those of us who believe in the First Amendment]
The NRC and Pentagon effort to “fight the net” is a realization by the government that the internet is an effective tool used by the opposition. As such, it is to be considered an “enemy weapon system” and neutralized, according to government logic.
The NRC report is part of an effort to familiarize (and propagandize) the public on the need for covert cyberattack against “non-state groups” and domestic extremists.
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Muzzling Pastors, church members
Intimidating Pastors / Christians by accusing of "hate" crimes

"Members of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee today rejected an opportunity to protect Christian pastors who preach the biblical condemnation of homosexuality and approved on a 15-12 vote a "hate crimes" bill that supporters admit could be used to bring charges against religious leaders.
The bill, H.R. 1913, now will be considered by the full House of Representatives.
The committee rejected a number of amendments offered by several members seeking to protect religious liberty, to protect the unborn, to protect against violence by illegal aliens, and to clarify the bill's meanings of "gender identity" and "sexual orientation."
Right Wing Extremists http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95923
more right wing extremists http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=96916

USA : Specially protected sex acts -- May 6, 2009
-- including sex acts with children and sex with animals
"Pedophilia is one of the scores of sexual orientations that are included, that are protected, that are granted special preferred status under this legislation to the exclusion of other classifications of people," says Matt Barber of Liberty Counsel.
"Bestiality, pedophilia ... pick your poison," adds Barber.
He says the legislation "shocks the conscience" and is clearly unconstitutional because it "guarantees unequal protection under the law."
"It's denying protections for veterans, for homeless people, for the elderly that it's granting pedophiles." http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=97218

"Woe unto them that call evil 'good'. "
Isaiah 5:20
Ed: How awful to call the unlawful, lawful. Sodomy was a crime in our law books just one generation ago. It was named after the city that flaunted homosexuality and was destroyed by God and left desolate as a reminder. God is the Judge of all the earth : yesterday, today and forever.

What about incest ? ( sex with relatives )
The crime of sexual relations or marriage taking place between a male and female who are so closely linked by blood or affinity that such activity is prohibited by law.
Incest is a statutory crime, often classified as a felony. The purpose of incest statutes is to prevent sexual intercourse between individuals related within the degrees set forth, for the furtherance of the public policy in favor of domestic peace. The prohibition of intermarriage is also based upon genetic considerations, since when excessive inbreeding takes place, undesirable recessive genes become expressed and genetic defects and disease are more readily perpetuated. In addition, the incest taboo is universal in human culture.

The power of one in a so-called "democracy" ( rule of majority ) :
"I'm offended" ( and I'm politically correct ) -- April 30, 2009
"He said the history in other nations is a fairly certain prosecution of Christians. In Sweden, for example, a minister who preached out of Leviticus was sentenced to 30 days in jail – for preaching out of Leviticus"
"U.S. Rep. Virginia Foxx, R-N.C., said H.R. 1913 will create "thought crimes," [ Ed: beliefs] and U.S. Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., said it will end equality in the United States.
U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, charged the plan will divide America into groups of more favored versus less. He again cited USC Title 18, Section 2a, the foundation of H.R. 1913, which says anyone who through speech "induces" commission of a violent hate crime "will be tried as a principal" alongside the active offender.
[ Ed: HR 1913 is convoluted rationalizing. In that case, all food corporations would be guilty of all diseases like diabetes etc., since food "induced" one to eat. It isn't logical, nor is it in any way affiliated. Christians preach God's word out of love. When others twist it and use it for an excuse of an actual crime of violence, it is because of their own warped minds, not because of God's law or the teaching of it. Let's not let loonisy prevail. It's not too far fetched to have someone manipulated to kill for political correctness and pin the guilt on the innocent. No stretch in today's world at all . ]

Christians conform or else

Special protection for transgender ( sex change )

Miss America 1st runner up chose truth over a tiara -- more power to her !
Ed: While the Media shows no mercy , Jesus Christ shows mercy. Jesus Christ is FAR greater !!
FOXNews.com: How are you feeling today?
Carrie Prejean: Honestly, happy. This happened for a reason. By having to answer that question in front of a national audience, God was testing my character and faith. I'm glad I stayed true to myself

Good comment

Comment on document by Judge
“Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment”,

Napolitano's r-w extremists

"Paranoid extremist" by Nathan Jones
“Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment”,

Oliver North : " I am an extremist"

Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Pastor Chuck Baldwin

No-go areas for Christians ...officers were "threating and intimidating"
"He said we were in a Muslim area and were not allowed to spread our Christian message. He said we were committing a hate crime by telling the youths to leave Islam and said that he was going to take us to the police station."

Christians face hostile environment


Under Obama-Napolitano's watch :
Persecution of right wing conservatives labeled (libeled ) as "extremists "
"A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority
"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion [ Ed: Does that make God an "extremist ?? ] or immigration," the warning says
The nine-page document was sent to police and sheriff's departments across the United States on April 7 under the headline, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment."
..."the report is one in an ongoing series of assessments by the department "
[ Ed: The side-issue of gun control takes away our 2nd Amendment ...our forefathers are now "extremists" ]

Commenting on "Rightwing Extremism "

Clumping white supremist groups, ecology group, veterans and people of moral faith all together

But some critics have said the DHS is equating conservative views to right-wing terrorism, but a DHS official countered that earlier this year, the department issued a mirror intelligence assessment of left-wing extremist groups.[ Ed: ??? ]

Legion : Americans are not the enemy

Comment ---InGod'sGarden
"Awhile back I posted a thread about how Great Britian is lumping any muslims whose religous beliefs condemn homosexuality along with other target muslim groups considered "terrorists"... including the real ones, of course.

This DHS report and whatever transpires because of it is nothing more than taking a crisis and using it (for other means). We can all see the writing on the wall. The government will use any kind of excuses to create the "myth" which will generate not only fear, but total public intolerance of any group who does not walk fully in step with their new "party line" When they start rounding up the "terrorists" according to their definition, the rest of the public will be relieved. This report is a propaganda tool for the near future. Didn't Hitler have to initially paint a pretty bad picture of the Jews and their potential to destroy German society before his followers believed it to be true and were willing to take care of the problem?

We are facing the same type of persecution in the near future, so we have to bear up for that right now.

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