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7 THUNDERS  possible meaning :  All 7 Continents will be involved in wars.
7 notable wars in the End Times possibly involving:
1. Syria/ Israel-- 2. Soviet Russia/ Israel -- 3. North Korea /Japan, So. Korea, USA --
4. Communist China/ Taiwan-- 5.Pakistan / India -- 6. Kosovo / Serbia -- 7. Turkey / Cyprus


Their time sequence has been sealed up, and is not known .
Revelation 10:3-6

"And I saw another mighty Angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon His head, and His face was as it were the sun, and His feet as pillars of fire:
And He had in His hand a little book open:
and He set His right foot upon the sea, and His left foot on the earth, and cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth:
and when He had cried, SEVEN THUNDERS uttered their voices.


"And when the Seven Thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write:
and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me,
"Seal up those things which the Seven Thunders uttered, and write them not." Revelation 10:1-4

USA ignoring war threats from North Korea (Vs. So. Korea ) and also Pakistan ( vs. India ) Russia-Ukraine ; China-Taiwan;
August-September 2015

US : tunnel-vision over Iran Nuke deal
Russia: has 7,700 nuclear weapons ; China has 250 nuclear weapons
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran/Analysis-Focus-on-a-nuclear-Iran-obscures-other-developing-nuclear-threats-413266


Note: Israel, Taiwan, India, Japan, South Korea, and Cyprus are all Democracies.
Will these become the vulnerable nations? ( including the USA )

The following nations mentioned are possiblities of conflict. ....

1. Syria vs. ISRAEL ( a Democracy ) Rev. 6:12-16

( Syria) Please see Psalm 83 ; Isaiah 17 and Jeremiah 49.
Arab-Israeli War ---- hopetotheend.com/arabwar.html

Syria has chemical warheads
Syria has stockpiles of several types of nerve gas, including Sarin, and chemical warheads for surface-to-surface missiles and aerial bombs, according to the Middle East Military Balance, a periodical report released by Tel Aviv University's Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies and Harvard University.
--Jerusalem Post
Chemical and Biological Warfare: hopetotheend.com/bcterror.html

Remembering to pray for the Peace of Jerusalem (Psalm 122) ......

"I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
"I will make Jerusalem a burdenstone stone for ALL people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces,
though ALL the people of the earth be gathered together against it."
Zechariah 12:2,3

"On your walls, O Jerusalem, I have appointed watchmen; All day and all night, they will never keep silent. You who remind the Lord, take no rest for yourselves; And give Him no rest until He establishes and
makes Jerusalem a praise in the earth." Isaiah 62:11

Oh Jerusalem, if I ever forget the thought of thee, may my right hand forget her skill; may my tongue cleave to my mouth. Psalm 137


2. Soviet Russia---Gog and Magog--and confederates
along with : Iran, Gomer (Germany; Warsaw Pact nations ), Libya, Ethiopia and Turkey.. Ezekiel 38 and 39
to attack Israel ( and her Allies )
A. Would there be a pre-emptive strike at Israel's ALLY ( USA ) first, by North Korea and Russia ?
Russia renews North Korean ties
please see hopetotheend.com/ch3p1.html for the rest of the story

Libyan missiles (made in North Korea) aimed at American bases
in Europe and the Mid-East

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/29/164506.shtml

B. Then Soviet Russia striking Israel (in the northern mountains)
Please see "The Russian Bear" hopetotheend.com/ch3p1.html

The GULF Region: RUSSIA (and China) and IRAN in the GULF

Chinese anti-tank missiles to the Gulf
The campaign has displayed the HJ-73 anti-tank guided weapon meant to penetrate explosive reactor armor. The weapon, produced by China North Industries Corp., known as Norinco, is said to contain more than twice the penetrating power of the original warhead.

Industry sources said Norinco has presented several variants of the HJ-73 to such countries as Iran, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates. They include the HJ-73 and the HJ-73B, said to be based on Russia's AT-3 Sagger missile.
Iran has a similar anti-tank missile called Raad. The Defense Ministry in Teheran has asserted that the Raad, equipped with a tandem warhead, can penetrate 400 mm of armor protected by explosive reactor armor. http://www.menewsline.com/stories/2003/october/10_02_2.html

IRAN

Tehran, Iran sits atop huge quake fault line
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2003/paolop102-2.htm
May all those involved in these MidEast wars prepare to meet their God... Amos 4:12
The US has 250,000 committed air, land and sea forces in the Gulf Region. Nov 2002
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US Friends in the MidEast

OMAN: A major U.S. base for Gulf war
The U.S. project appears to signal that Oman will be a major base in any war against Iraq. Oman had a small role in the 1991 Gulf war to expel Iraqi troops from Kuwait.
The United States has helped construct three major military bases in Oman, the sources said. A key base is at Thumrait, which contains an air field and facilities for the B-1 bomber. The B-1 was moved from Diego Garcia to the sultanate.


KUWAIT : Third Infantry Division from Georgia departs for Kuwait-
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/1/1/193802.shtml

QATAR: US finds a new friend
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2002/020807-iraq6.htm


3. Communist North Korea vs. South Korea ( a Democracy ) and JAPAN ( a democracy )
with missiles aimed at US troops in South Korea , Japan, Okinawa, Guam
missiles capable of hitting the United States   Jeremiah 50:3


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No. Korea to launch rockets in October -- Sept. 25, 2015
http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/236722151/north-korea-announces-plans-to-launch-rockets-for-peaceful-purposes


Kim Jung-un Leader of North Korea -- Dec. 31, 2011
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/31/kim-jong-un-north-korea-supreme-commander

North Korea  backed up by China ( "as close as lips to teeth " )

Jeremiah 51:1 speaks of a "destroying wind". Jeremiah 50:3 tells of our destruction coming from the NORTH (Korea?) ..... "a" (single) nation against 'Babylon.'


North Korea has 5,000 tonnes of biological weapons; to be used against USA or our troops in S. Korea ?
3rd largest bio-weaponry after Russia, USA.....Nov. 21-2001

http://asia.scmp.com/ZZZWHOD81UC.html
Message Board concerning North Korea
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?s=7cc4bd93679846edaed92090c06aa842&threadid=86575
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From the Newswire :

NK Missile capable of hitting 1/2 of the US
Ed: Western half of continental US as far as Wisconsin
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2009/mjm72-3.htm

Any time now
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Long range ( 4,000 miles ) missiles facing West
"It represents a major step forward for its long-range missile program because the facility would allow multiple test flights in a short time,"
The new launch facility is referred to as Tongchang-ri. It includes a movable launch pad and a 10-story tower capable of supporting North Korea's largest ballistic missiles and rockets. It also has a rocket motor test pad. "
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/us_north_korea_missiles/2009/06/04/221681.html
 
NK's
Long range missile Taepong Dong able to reach the USA photos of missile range
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1165051/U-S-deploys-battleships-ahead-controversial-North-Korean-long-range-missile-test.html
and
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2564241.stm

NK set to launch longest range missile towards the West ( US ) -- over Alaska
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/north_korea_missile/2009/02/12/181448.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE51201F20090203?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

Nuclear plants in South Korea and Japan http://earthblog-roland.blogspot.com/2008/08/biggest-nuclear-power-plants.html

NK set to launch missiles toward South Korea, Japan and the US
Eliminating 3 democracies by one dictatorship
A successful test would boost support at home for North Korea's leaders and raise alarm in Japan and the United States because it increases the chances that the two countries could be targets of North Korean missiles.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5120O820090203?virtualBrandChannel=10112
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5120O820090203?virtualBrandChannel=10112&pageNumber=2

NK suppling MidEast nations ( Arabs, Al-Quida ) with arms

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/127897
 

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Cruise Stealth-missiles from rogue states
(Like
NORTH Korea)
capable of hitting U.S.
Capable in some cases of taking off from ships close to shore and maneuvering below radar scanners or behind terrain, cruise missiles present a particular worry as potential platforms for delivering nuclear, biological or chemical warheads
could use rudimentary cruise missile technology to attack U.S. installations or the American homeland.
At least 81 countries are reported to have cruise missiles of some kind, totaling more than 70,000 weapons, although the vast majority are designed to go against ships at distances of less than 60 miles. Of greatest concern to U.S. officials are "land-attack" cruise missiles, which are produced by only a few major industrialized nations.

What worries U.S. authorities is the prospect of such states as Iraq, Iran or North Korea or such terrorist groups as al Qaeda taking existing aircraft or anti-ship missiles and
converting them into unmanned drones that could function as crude but still very deadly cruise missiles.
"Your car has in it all the sophisticated technology that's necessary to feed a little actuator inside of a guidance system to make a missile fly more or less where you want it to go," the Rumsfeld aide said. "If you can buy it in your automobile, you begin to get a sense of how practical it is for those kinds of weapons systems to be developed."
The U.S. government's most recent unclassified assessment of foreign missile developments, issued in December, said "many countries" see cruise missiles as a "better alternative" than ballistic missiles for attacking the United States, in large part because such weapons can be launched nearer to U.S. territory
from commercial ships. This would not only shorten the delivery time of the missiles but also help obscure their origins.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31153-2002Aug17.html l

North Korea threatens U.S. bases in Far East to become "a sea of fire"

U.S. military bases will become a "sea of fire" if war breaks out on the Korean peninsula.
That's the latest threat from North Korea, while South Korea says close to 700,000 American troops would be sent to the region.
He [ Huh Ryong ] also said his country would "thoroughly" wipe out those who aid the U.S., implying allies like South Korea and Japan, both of which host U.S. bases
premier Pak Pong-Ju urged North Koreans to counter "U.S. moves for aggression with a decisive and merciless military strike

Meanwhile, a just-released South Korean defense-policy paper says the U.S. would dispatch 690,000 troops and 2,000 warplanes in the event of a serious conflict.
"The United States has a plan to send more than 40 percent of its entire Navy, more than half of its Air Force and more than 70 percent of its Marine Corps to defend South Korea," the white paper said. "This shows the United States is firmly determined in its will to help defend the Korean peninsula."
It mentioned 160 vessels and 1,600 additional aircraft would augment the troops and fighter jets. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42733
 
"EAST WIND"--DF-31" Missiles : West Coast and throughout USA
 Missiles from China, Iran and North Korea
"North Korea has also restarted development of its long-range Tae Po Dong missile that can reach Alaska and the western United States.
The
North Korean military has recently deployed over 100 No Dong missiles.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/12/17/171048.shtml

More on "East Wind" missiles
The Chinese Army Second Artillery Corps is preparing to test its new Dong Feng 31, or "East Wind," ICBM during the next few days. The DF-31 reportedly can carry a single 3-megaton H-bomb or three 90-kiloton nuclear warheads. The missile has an official range of over 4,800 miles.
"It is likely that the goal for the JL-2 is to be able to reach the western U.S. from the Yellow Sea, an area that the PLA can defend with near-current ship and aircraft resources. But of course, if the Type 094 SSBN is able to reach launch points outside this area, the JL-2's reach will increase," stated Fisher.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/11/8/13331.shtml
 
JAPAN fears North Korean missiles
TOKYO, Dec. 25 — With Japan increasingly worried about North Korea's missile arsenal and nuclear bomb programs, the United States has offered assurances that its Aegis destroyers are capable of shooting down medium-range missiles, the Japanese Jiji Press news agency reported today.

Japan's defense minister, Shigeru Ishiba, won the assurances from Pentagon officials when he was in Washington earlier this month, the agency said. North Korea is believed to have about 100 missiles with a range of 800 miles, enough to cover most of the Japanese archipelago.

The United States fears the plant could be used to make nuclear weapons. The atomic energy agency, which had been administering the controls, estimates that the North Koreans will have the five-megawatt reactor operational by the end of February.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld warned North Korea on Monday not to take advantage of the Iraq crisis to further its nuclear ambitions. He asserted that American forces were capable of fighting two wars at once.
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/26/international/asia/26KORE.html

North Korea has 1 million man army
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2604587.stm

100,000 US troops stationed in Far East Asia
37,000 in South Korea; 45,000 in Japan ; 18,000 in Guam, Okinawa and elsewhere.
w.anti-imperialist.org/korea_3-5-02.html

North Korea threatens to" Destroy the earth "
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30156

North Korea: a military threat
the commander of the US forces in South Korea, General Thomas A Schwartz, described North Korea as the country most likely to involve the United States in a large-scale war.

Of particular concern to Washington is an untested North Korean missile, the Taepodong 2, which some analysts believe could reach the western fringes of the US.
The Taepodong 1 tested by North Korea in 1998 demonstrated the
country's ability to strike Japan.
North Korea maintains the world's third largest army, with its ground forces numbering one million active duty soldiers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/787837.stm

North Korea--1 MILLION military personnel deployed for surprise lightening attack
(blitzkrieg) against South Korea BEFORE any US military involvement
.

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2000/12/05/200012050044.asp  

May all those involved prepare to meet their God


Continued at hopetotheend.com/7thunders2.html
Includes: China-Taiwan, India-Pakistan, Former Yugoslavia, Turkey-Greece, Cypress


Additional Hotspots :

South America on the brink of war --Venezuela, Columbia, Ecuador

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/mar2008/mjm34-3.htm

ASEAN 10 nations
Richer members, including Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia and the Philippines, favour faster decision-making.
Asean's poorest and newest members – Burma, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos – want a consensual approach.
[ Ed: also Brunei-Darussalam ; source Wikipedia ]
Burma, which is planning a Russian-built nuclear plant, could also become the focus of a proposed Asean agency that would ensure that the region's nuclear facilities would not be used to produce weapons.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/74066fe8-3e70-11dc-bfcf-0000779fd2ac.html


May all those involved prepare to meet their God

May our Shepherds:
"Sanctify ye a fast. Call a solemn assembly. Gather the elders
and all the inhabitants of the land into the house of the LORD your God,
and cry unto the LORD.....O LORD, to thee will I cry."
Joel 1: 14, 19

Words to The Battle Hymn of the Republic (Cutting Edge)

Let us pray daily for the protection of our American forces throughout the globe. Genesis 15:1



"More things are wrought by PRAYER, than this world dreams of"

"God is still on the throne, and prayer changes things."


Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan "Clash of Cultures"
http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/mar/27daniel.htm

Bruce Beach Newsletter ( submitted by "Lynnie") RR Chat -
Subject : [Arktwo] Three Ring Circus

In the center ring -
Iran.
The world nuclear powers
today watch Iran.
All being done on the high wire -
without a net.
To me the events seem nigh inevitable.

While others may ignore it -
in some ways I have never seen
such suspense
since the Cuban Missile Crisis
when all the world watched -
wondering if the Russian ships would stop.

There are always some people
that will dispute the inevitability of events -
from major earthquakes on the US West coast
to Volcanic eruptions -
hundred year floods -
perfect storms -
or what have you.

The inevitability of some events
is only assured by very long geologic time periods,
others occur statistically -
with much greater regularity.

But eventually -
all men die,
all nations pass away,
all monetary
and other man made systems
fail.

Because such catastrophic events
are beyond the individual's control
many people choose to ignore them
in their day to day living.
And because such catastrophic events are rare -
in the short term -
those who ignore them are most likely correct
in their predictions
that the sun will come up tomorrow
and life will go on.

But there are other times
when the rumbling of the earth
beneath our feet
is so ominous that it will give
pause to the most blasť.
Such should be the current events.

The meteorological interactions
that combine to create a perfect storm -
the motions of the tectonic plates
that result in volcanic eruptions
and earthquakes
are beyond my comprehension.

Likewise beyond my comprehension
are the geopolitical activities
that are leading us towards catastrophe -
but just as with the wavering needle
of the seismograph in warning of earthquake
the news events of world headlines
tell us that an eruption is in the making.

Will they -
or won't they -
stop making the bomb in Iran?
No matter how great their protestation
that to make the bomb has never been their purpose -
there are few in the world
and none in the US administration
that believe it -
and THAT is all that matters.

If Iran truly wished to alleviate world fears -
and openly and clearly demonstrate
that it would not make the bomb -
it could do so,
but instead it continues to play a game of
'chicken' like the hotrod crazies of years ago
who would race headlong at each other
to see who would turn away first.

Time and again -
Iran played 'fooled you'
as they promised to drop the prize
into the European negotiators' laps -
but then their hand proved to be empty.

The US and Israel team
are thoroughly convinced
that Iran is building the bomb.
And the US and Israel
are nuclear powers
with the ability to put a stop to that -
immediately.

However, on Iran's team are:
China
Russia
France -
also nuclear powers
and there is the conundrum.
There are now TWO nuclear team's
lined up against each other.

The question is -
"Can the US convince
the opposing team's nuclear players
to stay on the bench?"
Probably not.

So, does this mean
that the tournament will be cancelled?
Probably not.

Will Iran continue to
secretly build its nuclear weapons?
Probably so.
At least that is what the US and Israel think.

Will the US and/or Israel
strike to eliminate Iran's nuclear weapon development.
Probably so.
At least that is what I think.

It is also what
Iran thinks.
So -
Iran may strike first -
if it gets its nuclear weapons.

If Iran should get two
deliverable nuclear weapons -
then using them
on a pre-emptive first strike basis -
would be the equivalent of having
twenty nuclear weapons
and then being struck first by the US and Israel.

There is a line of thought -
that having nuclear weapons
prevents one from being struck -
and that has been mankind's experience
for the last fifty years.
That is why Iran and North Korea SAY
that they need nuclear weapons -
to insure that they WON'T be struck.

On the other hand -
Israel is a very small country
compared to Iran
and the Arab countries around Israel
so that in a nuclear exchange
a very few nuclear weapons dropped on Israel
would eliminate Israel -
and many more nuclear weapons from Israel
wouldn't eliminate their enemies.

Iran and a number of Arab nations proclaim
that it is their intention to eliminate Israel.
Consequently, Israel (and its US ally)
do not think they can permit Iran to get the bomb,
since Israel could take but a few hits and survive -
and their enemies could take many more hits and survive.

Meanwhile -
over in one of the side rings -
the Ukraine.
This I understand even less -
except that Russia
one of the Iran nuclear players
is being very irritated by it.

The US says that there may have been
improprieties in the Ukraine election.
Sort of like the kettle calling the pot black.
But the US feels that it should bring pressure
on the election decisions in that country.

Americans who cheer all US government actions
will never pause to think
how they would feel
if another country felt that it
should bring pressure on
election decisions in the US -
if there were indeed improprieties
in the US election.

And over in the third ring -
the acts regarding
North Korea
Taiwan / China
Pakistan / India
Japan / nuclear
rumble on hardly noticed
because of the drama
on the high-wire in the center ring.

Show time!

Peace and love,
Bruce
DawnSayer@webpal.org


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